The TWIML AI Podcast@twimlaiJuly 16, 2025
Hot takes (from me) and reasoned discussion (from Sam) on:
The current best practices for building production, enterprise scale, voice agents.
What models to use, how to think about infrastructure, and what the solved and unsolved problems in voice AI are, right now.
Why I spend most of my time now working on an an open source, vendor neutral, community driven codebase, even though there's always an (additional) infinite amount of work to do running a company.
Building developer tools in this new AI era.
The importance of moving towards voice and multimodal realtime standards.
Doing inference on the edge: can you run voice agents today locally, on phones and laptops?
Sam Charrington is a fantastic interviewer: knowledgeable, insightful, good at pulling the conversation in interesting directions. I knew that from listening to many, many episodes of TWIML. So it was a huge amount of fun being on the show.
The TWIML AI Podcast@twimlaiIn this episode, @kwindla Kramer, co-founder and CEO of @trydaily and creator of the open source @pipecat_ai framework, joins us to discuss the architecture and challenges of building real-time, production-ready conversational voice AI. Kwin breaks down the full stack for voice
